Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

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Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Eltacco » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:15 pm

I bought this female shama in Italy a few months ago. They told me I was born in May 2016. According to your opinion that has problems?
http://imgur.com/a/bvZRJ

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Re: Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Paul.R » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:35 am

That a nice bird. A young bird.
Allow bird to mature and grow further until ready to breed.
Your photo show feather little rough up.
You mention problem. Tell us more about it.

That green rope if not necessary should be remove. Could catch its leg.
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Re: Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Eltacco » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:17 pm

Thank you, first I apologize for my English translated by Google.
problems List
A - the end of the tail seems attacked by mites.
B - wing feathers are growing back, mites?
C - the upper beak and too long, the bird is old?

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Re: Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Tanin » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:30 am

Hi Eltacco,

My experiance with shama is not very long...but I think

A - the end of the tail seems attacked by mites.
if the bird is wild or the cage is too small, sometimes the tail will be broken... otherwise, highly possible that there are mites problem

B - wing feathers are growing back, mites?
possible... and you may also try to see if there are any issue with the nutritions or humidation (normally if the bird have access to bath; the feather will be okay even during molting)

C - the upper beak and too long, the bird is old?
I suspect it is and age bird... unless the living condition or the nutritions is not balances...

maybe you can use the nail clipper to trim it...

Last time when my female shama undergo molting, the condition is not as this...
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10982&start=18
(the female in that picture is few years old, but the beak and talon is not too long)

can you share more on the diet and the housing condition?

Please keep us updated Eltacco
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Re: Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Paul.R » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:59 am

If mite related. I use this. Very effective on mite.

Frontline Spot Combo Small Breed 2-10 Kg

You can order on line.

Just one or two drop behind the skin neck of Shama. All mite that sucks it's blood will died. . At times cage could be small or bird is stress the hen could be stress out of its environment other times could be generic problem. Show us more photo please.
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Re: Can anyone give me advice to a young female shama?

Postby Eltacco » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:53 am

Thanks Tanin, thanks Paul.
Tanin you confirm all my doubts.
Let's start with age, I had doubts already at the time of purchase but the seller being a friend I have not dared to doubt his word.
Mites, I ran a treatment last November and one recently in early March.
The cages where they spend the winter are a little 'small.
Do not use Front Line Combo because I avoid to pick them up. Use Ivomec diluted 1: 9 with Propylene Glycol, anoint a moth or a shackle with a drop and I feed.
Eating, as a staple food use 'Extruded Nutribird UNI Komplet' data at will.
As a complementary food use the 'mash for insectivores UNI Patee': one teaspoon per day.
Also in the run-up to do playback flour moths, crickets and moths of honey.
Three times a week do the vitamins in the water.
http://imgur.com/a/N7bGz
Now the female has demonstrated the will to want to nest, and I opened the cage of the male.
I own a couple and the other has no such 'aesthetic problems' (beak and feathers)
I think the issues are related to age and that it is also affected by the so-called 'French silent' that is, the continuous replacement of the pens.
He has a ring which bears the date 2007, the seller told me that he was placed randomly in the past year at the time of birth.


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